BBC and global warming

[John Hansen]

Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming? From what I've
heard, the BBC considers this issue settled. They will no longer
address the so-called "uncertainty" of global warming, but will only
discuss how best to respond to the threats that global warming
presents.

Can anyone confirm this? Are there any links/URLs to articles on the
internet about BBC's position on this?

--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!

[Roger Coppock]

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming? From what I've
heard, the BBC considers this issue settled. They will no longer
address the so-called "uncertainty" of global warming, but will only
discuss how best to respond to the threats that global warming
presents.
Can anyone confirm this? Are there any links/URLs to articles on the
internet about BBC's position on this?

I don't know about the Beeb, I'm an American from Southern
California, but what you say is true of the scientific journals.
One can't publish a paper discussing flat Earth theory in them
either. I doubt that the Beeb publishes flat Earth theory too.

Post by John Hansen
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Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!

"I don't know who that masked man was, but I want to thank him."

[c***@sbcglobal.net]

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming?

This is true. For similar reasons they also will not discuss whether
Jesus actually rose from the grave.

Post by John Hansen
From what I've
heard, the BBC considers this issue settled.

Yes. The same for Jesus. Issue settled.

Post by John Hansen
They will no longer
address the so-called "uncertainty" of global warming,

Wouldn't be polite. You understand.

Post by John Hansen
but will only
discuss how best to respond to the threats that global warming
presents.

Yes. This is true of the whole global warming industry.

Post by John Hansen
Can anyone confirm this? Are there any links/URLs to articles on the
internet about BBC's position on this?

It's a matter of decency.

[Hoggle]

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming?

Not at all:
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4074911.stm

BBC News asked a range of opinion leaders how worrying climate change
is - and what we should do about it.

"Global warming alarmism is an implausible theory for which there is
little scientific evidence"
Myron Ebell, Competitive Enterprise Institute

"Climate's a grave concern - but Kyoto has arguably worsened our
chances"
Aubrey Meyer, Global Commons Institute

"We should weigh costs and benefits of possible climate proposals"
Peter Calow, Environmental Assessment Institute

"Global warming threatens a great reversal of human progress"
Andrew Simms, New Economics Foundation

"Kyoto remains the bedrock of any credible strategy"
Professor Michael Grubb, The Carbon Trust

"International companies have a major role in meeting the energy
challenge" "
Lord Oxburgh, Shell

This is 2 years old. The number of reputable scientists left willing to
make any claim outside of the range of views supporting the general
consensus has since dwindled to almost none. You can't manufacture a
dispute for the news when none exists (except in the minds of some of
the deluded idiots on here).

[b***@ntlworld.com]

Post by Hoggle

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming?

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4074911.stm
BBC News asked a range of opinion leaders how worrying climate change
is - and what we should do about it.
"Global warming alarmism is an implausible theory for which there is
little scientific evidence"
Myron Ebell, Competitive Enterprise Institute
"Climate's a grave concern - but Kyoto has arguably worsened our
chances"
Aubrey Meyer, Global Commons Institute
"We should weigh costs and benefits of possible climate proposals"
Peter Calow, Environmental Assessment Institute
"Global warming threatens a great reversal of human progress"
Andrew Simms, New Economics Foundation
"Kyoto remains the bedrock of any credible strategy"
Professor Michael Grubb, The Carbon Trust
"International companies have a major role in meeting the energy
challenge" "
Lord Oxburgh, Shell
This is 2 years old. The number of reputable scientists left willing to
make any claim outside of the range of views supporting the general
consensus has since dwindled to almost none. You can't manufacture a
dispute for the news when none exists (except in the minds of some of
the deluded idiots on here).

The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent
unprecedented early snowfall
in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW in the
same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

[b***@ntlworld.com]

Post by b***@ntlworld.com

Post by Hoggle

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming?

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4074911.stm
BBC News asked a range of opinion leaders how worrying climate change
is - and what we should do about it.
"Global warming alarmism is an implausible theory for which there is
little scientific evidence"
Myron Ebell, Competitive Enterprise Institute
"Climate's a grave concern - but Kyoto has arguably worsened our
chances"
Aubrey Meyer, Global Commons Institute
"We should weigh costs and benefits of possible climate proposals"
Peter Calow, Environmental Assessment Institute
"Global warming threatens a great reversal of human progress"
Andrew Simms, New Economics Foundation
"Kyoto remains the bedrock of any credible strategy"
Professor Michael Grubb, The Carbon Trust
"International companies have a major role in meeting the energy
challenge" "
Lord Oxburgh, Shell
This is 2 years old. The number of reputable scientists left willing to
make any claim outside of the range of views supporting the general
consensus has since dwindled to almost none. You can't manufacture a
dispute for the news when none exists (except in the minds of some of
the deluded idiots on here).

The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent
unprecedented early snowfall
in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW in the
same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

Roger Coppock
Can you now agree that the Antarctic is cooling as I showed you with

"The Antarctic ice cap is sxpanding so much so that GW Gurus have
written a paper trying to account for it.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/2004/ShindellSchmidt1.html

This says that icreasing westerly winds are are preventing heat from
lower latitudes from reaching the Antarctic.

Physical Geographers know that the westerly winds tranfer heat to
higher latitudes and that an increase in their velocity would be caused
by an increasing temperature differential between Antarctica and the
Temperate Zone.
Thus the conclusion of the above paper is illogical.
Try Googling "Seal Nanatuks" for evidence of a volcano under the
position of the Larsen Ice Shelf."
The BBC hasn't admitted that fact unlike Gavin Schmidt a leading AGW
guru.

[Hoggle]

Post by b***@ntlworld.com
The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent
unprecedented early snowfall
in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW in the
same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

Please point out where in this article there is any mention of global
warming.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/news/13102006news.shtml

Early taste of winter for parts of northeastern North America by Laura
Gilchrist

A large low pressure system centred near Lake Superior has brought
record snowfall to parts of the US Midwest, and has prompted warnings
of low temperatures and frost from eastern Colorado to western
Pennsylvania. Parts of Ontario have also seen snow from the early
winter storm.

Chicago saw its earliest measurable fall of snow in recorded history,
as did Detroit. In Michigan, new snowfall records for 12th October were
set in the Grand Rapids area. In New York State, the city of Buffalo
also saw its snowiest October day since records began 137 years ago
when up to 10 centimetres (4 inches) of lake-effect snow fell. The
heavy, wet snow brought down trees and power lines, leaving over
150,000 customers in the Buffalo area without electricity. Forecasters
there described the early taste of winter as "almost
unprecedented".

In the Canadian state of Ontario, the city of Toronto saw some flurries
and the city of London saw about one centimetre. Snow this early is not
unusual for this part of Canada, and in fact London saw 6.8 cm (2.7 in)
of snow fall on 12th October 1988. The wintry conditions still led to
the closure of some Ontario highways.

More snow is forecast for the Great Lakes on Friday, and wintry weather
could reach New York City. It is too early to tell if the early winter
storm is a precursor to a cold winter, and in fact NOAA's long-range
winter forecast is predicting a mild winter for much of the USA.


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I suspect that this myth of bias, and this thread, is motivated by some
denier being rejected as an 'expert' on the topic, who is now striking
out like a sulking toddler.

[Eric Swanson]

Post by Hoggle
This is 2 years old. The number of reputable scientists left willing to
make any claim outside of the range of views supporting the general
consensus has since dwindled to almost none. You can't manufacture a
dispute for the news when none exists (except in the minds of some of
the deluded idiots on here).

The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent unprecedented
early snowfall in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW
in the same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

That snowfall was limited to a very narrow lake effect corridor down wind
of Lake Erie. The precipitation may have been the result of warmer than
normal water temperatures, a possible consequence of last summer's record
temperatures. Thus, it COULD be attributed to global warming.

[Philip Hart]

Post by b***@ntlworld.com
The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent
unprecedented early snowfall
in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW in the
same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

You must be watching a pirate BBC broadcast from N Korea or similar The
one I watch had full coverage.

Global climate change theories predict an increase in the incidence of
unusual weather events. Such an increase has been noted over the last
several years, with frequency of such events also on the rise. Perhaps
you are not sure what unusual weather events are. In which case I
suggest you keep a tally of the number of people dying in floods,
blizzards, typhoons and hurricanes, droughts, tornadoes, heat waves and
extreme low temperatures. You'll find the same kind of result as above,
with the chop rate increasing as well. Soon there will be so many that
the population explosion will be history.

[Lloyd Parker]

Post by b***@ntlworld.com

Post by Hoggle

Post by John Hansen
Is it true that the BBC no longer will discuss whether global warming
is real, or whether humans contribute to this warming?

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4074911.stm
BBC News asked a range of opinion leaders how worrying climate change
is - and what we should do about it.
"Global warming alarmism is an implausible theory for which there is
little scientific evidence"
Myron Ebell, Competitive Enterprise Institute
"Climate's a grave concern - but Kyoto has arguably worsened our
chances"
Aubrey Meyer, Global Commons Institute
"We should weigh costs and benefits of possible climate proposals"
Peter Calow, Environmental Assessment Institute
"Global warming threatens a great reversal of human progress"
Andrew Simms, New Economics Foundation
"Kyoto remains the bedrock of any credible strategy"
Professor Michael Grubb, The Carbon Trust
"International companies have a major role in meeting the energy
challenge" "
Lord Oxburgh, Shell
This is 2 years old. The number of reputable scientists left willing to
make any claim outside of the range of views supporting the general
consensus has since dwindled to almost none. You can't manufacture a
dispute for the news when none exists (except in the minds of some of
the deluded idiots on here).

The BBC is biased it hasn't so much as mentioned the recent
unprecedented early snowfall
in the NE of the US. I wuold suspect it would blame it on GW in the
same way as it blames GW for all bad weather.

And it melted the next day.